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Gibson logo without the dot?

Trans-Am

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......so this DOT issue thing is as normal as it comes. There is nothing historic in a sense when an accurately described Historic reissue is made yet there is no DOT, or should've?

Cheers!:salude
 

Wally

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what are '66 serial numbers?


Bluespower, it would be easier to know your number and then figure out what years that number can be 'good' for. Ex: I have a '66 ES-345TDC that I bought new in the summer of '67. The number on it can fit into '66, '69, '73, '74 or '75. I know when I bought it, and the details place it in 1966 and in no other year.
Looking at the serial number chart, there are numbers in certain ranges from 300,000's through the 800,000's that would fit for a '66. (My 345 is 808---.) Once Gibson moved into the hundreds of thousand...100,000 on up in 1963, things got very confusing until they straightened things out in the mid-'70's with Letter+digits and then the 8-digit ranges.
 

Flogger

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I have an ES 335 with orange label, a 1965 serial number, nickel parts, chrome pickup covers, nylon saddles, thin nut, slim neck fom frets 1 to 4, a low keystone, and no dot over the i. I assume it is not a '65 but is a late 60's. This helps me as well.

So I guess it could be as early as a '68. But why does it have nickel parts, a 65 serial number and the old style knobs? I thought nickel was used up to 66. ?

Here is my orange label 1966 ES345 with the transitional flowerpot position and original single rings. Flowerpot (or keystone) position is the tell for me.

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El Gringo

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If you have a Gibson Les Paul Custom 1971-1974 with a dot , and also with a closed B and O ,what year would that be ?
 

Wally

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If you have a Gibson Les Paul Custom 1971-1974 with a dot , and also with a closed B and O ,what year would that be ?

The dot makes it fit for '72-'74. Check the pots. That might define things better....or that code might not give you much info at all. There are times in that part of that decade where there is no way to pin a year of manufacture down. You get a 'range' of possibilities or perhaps one of two years. Say the pots dated to the 42nd week of 1973. That could indicate either 1973 or 1974 while eliminating the possibility of 1972.
 

El Gringo

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The dot makes it fit for '72-'74. Check the pots. That might define things better....or that code might not give you much info at all. There are times in that part of that decade where there is no way to pin a year of manufacture down. You get a 'range' of possibilities or perhaps one of two years. Say the pots dated to the 42nd week of 1973. That could indicate either 1973 or 1974 while eliminating the possibility of 1972.

Thank you for your help.
 

Bobby Sunshine

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I had a Prereissue that had no dot. 84-85. It also had the closed b and o. Most of the prereissues I have seen had no dot.
I have an early 1978 Les Paul Custom made in Kalamazoo with no dot over the i. I’ve heard the there were very few customs made in Kalamazoo in the late 70’s. is that true. Mine is beautifully made. I like the fact that it was made in the old factory by expert luthiers, it shows in the quality of this instrument.
 
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