PAUL STANLEY BURST

[BlueSkyBurst]

Thanks for the validation TW! I grew up withe these LIers, who were cheap as hell, even when they made it "big" and suspected Paul wouldn't spend good Burst money, even though he has it. Glad to hear its been finally confirmed!

 

[Rev-al]

So many people get upset when the online vintage guitar community shows its skepticism, every time a so-called undocumented/undiscovered 58-60 Burst is unveiled.

Don't you think this skepticism is a good thing in the vintage guitar market?

Without it, we would probably be up to about 5,000 original 58-60 Bursts on burstserial by this point.

Skepticism is healthy. I make no excuses about it.

This is such a valid point. Every time I read of someone who claims to have genuine PAF pick ups in their post 1960 guitars, I wonder-..... Where are all these original '50 s Gibsons, robbed of their original pick ups? Don't the current owners realise the guitar has replacement pick ups ? Can this REALLY be the case, that SO many people have genuine PAFs ?
Reminds me of the tale of the devout ones who claim to have a genuine splinter of wood from the cross of Christ. If you put them all together, it would make a forest.
Just think about it. The question needs to be raised.

 

[Tom Wittrock]

Just to be clear, I do not know what Paul was told, but I feel certain he has been told that the guitar is not a real Burst.
Whether he believes that or not, I don't know.

Funny how this serial number has been used twice, on fakes. If and when a real Burst surfaces with that serial number, it could be suspect, at least for a while.

 

[VonPrikler]

Just to be clear, I do not know what Paul was told, but I feel certain he has been told that the guitar is not a real Burst.
Whether he believes that or not, I don't know.

Funny how this serial number has been used twice, on fakes. If and when a real Burst surfaces with that serial number, it could be suspect, at least for a while.

Thanks Tom!
I gotta ask, because I am intrigued. Do you know of any other connection between these two fakes with the same serial number?

 

[jimmi]

This is such a valid point. Every time I read of someone who claims to have genuine PAF pick ups in their post 1960 guitars, I wonder-..... Where are all these original '50 s Gibsons, robbed of their original pick ups? Don't the current owners realise the guitar has replacement pick ups ? Can this REALLY be the case, that SO many people have genuine PAFs ?
Reminds me of the tale of the devout ones who claim to have a genuine splinter of wood from the cross of Christ. If you put them all together, it would make a forest.
Just think about it. The question needs to be raised.

A lot of the PAFs came from jazz boxes and old lap and table steel guitars. I was told there were also a good number of old stock sitting at the Kalamazoo factory for a while. I know of at least one luthier who said he bought a box of those and bridges etc for a few hundred back in the 70s.

 

[Beano Geno]

It would be most interesting to see some of the "before" pictures, when it was in pieces.

 

[Tom Wittrock]

Thanks Tom!
I gotta ask, because I am intrigued. Do you know of any other connection between these two fakes with the same serial number?

Not that I know of.
It's very possible, if not likely that this is a late 60s "conversion" of some sort.
But seeing it after it has most recently been "restored", it is even harder to tell exactly what it was. Especially with limited photos.

Detailed photos of this before they restored it would be very interesting. :ganz

 

[Hetfieldinn]

Maybe he's going to smash it on stage, and sell it on his site?

http://shop.paulstanleyguitars.com/2013-Japanese-Tour_c21.htm

 

[E-Rock]

I think ol' Paul knows exactly what this guitar is and knows exactly what he's doing. He's been playing this game for 40 years and has become a Hall of Famer doing it. The KISS boys have mastered the power of suggestion.

 

[jalevinemd]

So why is it that Gord Miller still has this on his site as a "real '59 'burst"? Why would he risk damaging his credibility? I'm confused.

 

[Cogswell]

And...
boom

 

[Black58]

Too lazy to read 5 pages. Did I miss anythin' good? :hmm

 

[Triburst]

The "Paul Stanley Burst" quit being a burst.:lol

 

[treeofpain]

Well it does have a sunburst finish, sort of.

 

[Tom Wittrock]

The "real" Paul Stanley Burst is 9-1876.
Has been and always will be, in my book. :dude:

 

[landminelenny]

I speed read 5 pages so I may have missed it but did anyone ask "where's the chew mark?"

 

[Tom Wittrock]

I speed read 5 pages so I may have missed it but did anyone ask "where's the chew marks?"

Fixed it for you. :ganz

 

[landminelenny]

Fixed it for you. :ganz

Cheers Tom :##

 

[Tom Wittrock]

Cheers Tom :##

A lot of people still only look for the one by the bridge volume pot. :salude

 

[landminelenny]

A lot of people still only look for the one by the bridge volume pot. :salude

Pity Paul Stanley didn't before he bought it and GM Vintage didn't before they called it 'genuine'.