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NGD - Help me! What did I get?

renderit

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I have been looking at this and playing on it for several weeks. I have almost been hoping somebody would give it a good home. Well, today I went in GC while my wife was at an appointment and it was still there. I need some help figuring out whether I was an idiot or not.

First of all, the neck is fabulous. Thin across the fingerboard but deeper than you'd guess. Fells pretty meaty, not like you'd expect. I expected it would sound like a weak fart plugged in; guess again. Damn! This thing competes with my 59 Junior! Rock and roll machine for sure.

Supposedly it is a 1963 SG. All original except tuners. No breaks I can see. I opened up the back and all sure looks original in there compared with those I have seen on the net. The pickguard is warped, but intact (including the point, I have not seen that much). Sounded fabulous at the store both acoustically and plugged in. I changed the strings and now it rattles like hell, but the nut really needs replacing so that doesn't bother me much. The set screws on the ass end of the bridge are gone, but I figure I'd replace the bridge with a corrected 3rd string one anyway. Knobs are pretty bad, chipped up and such but I'd guess easy to replace with correct ones?

So here's my questions:

1) What do you think it's worth?
2) Do you see any problems or know of any I should?
3) By the serial is it a '63 or something else?
4) Should I keep the damn case or throw it out?
5) Any problem replacing the nut with bone or fossil ivory or do you just not do that on this?
6) Should I replace the knobs?
7) Should I replace the bridge?

(All replacements of course I would keep the originals).

Here you go...













 

Kevin James

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The heel shape points to 1962 and I can't clearly make out the serial number but it looks like maybe 88416 or 88418? If so that also points to 62.

Congrats, likes like a nice one :dude:
 

kharrison

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A 62 would still have Les Paul on the headstock and a slanted stop bar no?
 

moonweasel

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Looks cool!

If you think you might keep it, sure, might as well toss the original bridge and knobs in a proper new case and get replacements ( I have no idea if the current case belongs with the guitar or not). If you think you will sell it, I would just make the "next guy" pay for the parts and case himself.

I dig it!
 

DANELECTRO

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A 62 would still have Les Paul on the headstock and a slanted stop bar no?

I've owned one 1962 Melody Maker with the slanted tailpiece and another one with the lightning bar, so the change happend mid-year.

The pickguard on the subject guitar is 2-ply which which puts it pre-1964
 

renderit

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Awesome. Youse guys are the best, it's maybe a year older than I thought!

Now, is it worth $2300?

I figured from looking out there that most I see are 3500 to 4500 asking price. I have no idea about selling price. I am guessing I made a good deal (maybe not great, but at least I am not an idiot)? Or I am and idiot, but this deal does not prove it?
 

bizzwriter

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I had a polar white '63 SG that just killed -- great neck, great P-90 -- and I have a '63 in red like yours, but routed for a humbucker. The necks on these things have a great shape, and the guitars are extremely light and resonant. I sold my white one a year-and-a-half ago or so for about $4k. I picked up the routed red one on ebay a year ago for just over $1k. The price you paid looks good to me for an unmolested example. Great guitars!

p.s. The serial number on my current red '63 is 321887
 

mingus

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Awesome. Youse guys are the best, it's maybe a year older than I thought!

Now, is it worth $2300?

I figured from looking out there that most I see are 3500 to 4500 asking price. I have no idea about selling price. I am guessing I made a good deal (maybe not great, but at least I am not an idiot)? Or I am and idiot, but this deal does not prove it?


That's a good price. If it's a great guitar (many of these early SG Jr's are!), pony up and enjoy the hell out of it.
 

Tom Wittrock

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I have been looking at this and playing on it for several weeks.

... the neck is fabulous. ... Damn! This thing competes with my 59 Junior!


Buy it. :ganz

Don't throw anything away.
Whatever you replace on it [bridge, knobs, case etc.], keep the originals.

Play it. :yah
 

renderit

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Thanks guys! I bought it before I posted this thread, that's why I was kinda nervous. Seemed like too good a price. I'll keep the case (at least it does not stink!) and of course all the parts. Just ordered a 3-3 compensated bridge today. Thinking about redoing the nut next week, its' been cut on so much it's worthless. Gotta find me some of those knobs. If anybody has any suggestions there let me know.

Thanks again all!
 

renderit

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Thanks. I already got the Mojoaxe bridge sitting in front of me and I got Gibson reflectors. Waiting on a nut file I ordered and I am ready to make this lil' monster rock.
 

bern1

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Looks like a solid SG Jr., nothing wrong with that, enjoy!
 
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